Forward: I wrote this in March and never posted it. I don't know why. I may have forgotten or lost it in draft spam or some other topic that captured my attention. I'm super tired today and decided to pour my limited energy into finishing some of the sixty some drafts I have half built in this here pool of writing. I decided to leave it as is. I rather startled at the number of almost finished posts I have.
The single shard nature of Eve is fantastic. The game is large enough that not knowing people is normal but the possibility of bumping into them still exists. I have had a few such situations of late.
Cynide Jester wrote a blog post about being ransomed. The following day, Druur comments that associates of his ransomed someone for a song. He found Cynide Jester's blog and connected the dots. For me, it was amusing because I know them both.
A second was when Lain soloed (good job there!) someone from another corp. That corp happens to be an associate corp of someone that I know and hang out with. It turns a random kill into a 'Oh I know them or I know of them' which makes the entire situation more interesting.
Those types of connections are all over Eve. It has filled Eve with e-celebrities. It also adds to the rise and fall of people across the game. Someone may know you but someone else may know you but people may always be an unnoticeably close distance from someone else. Not everyone looks beyond the game for their information and interaction so many people do not recognize the famous people. It grows even more amusing in a fleet when some people do things like listen to Eve Radio or Pod Casts and others have never taken an interest in such things. Then, one person recognizes someone that died and says how they are an “e-celebrety” and other people are like, “So? Dunno who they are.”
Some names are larger than others. Some people have cults around them. Some have grown organically (buzz word extra points!) and others have grown them by sheer force of personality or will.
James315 is someone people may or may not recognize. People that follow blogs, forums and news may recognize him. He started off with long winded but excellently written posts on the forums about how miners were killing Eve and advanced to creating his New Order where he uses the non-combat action of bumping spaceships against each other to fight against AFK miners and botters.
I don’t have an opinion one way or another on his goals and motives. I’m glad hes out playing the game in such a way that engages others and himself. He pisses a lot of people off but their anger is a deep burn that causes them to wish retaliation on him. Such as Eve should be and such is the actual topic of my thoughts.
A few weeks ago someone told me that the Miners that inhabit the systems that James315 has claimed as his own were going to retaliate and stop him finally. How they were going to do this was unsure. It seems that the simplest way to make a point to someone, blowing up their spaceship, was unacceptable.
I had to ask why?
“Because we will not lower ourselves to his level.”
I will admit, as simple and clear as that sounds I don’t understand it. All the methods that they have attempted to change their situation have failed. A stack of methods have been looked at and put aside because they would be lowering themselves. Those methods are PvP focused.
Now, if someone does not wish to PvP I will not force them. I expect them to accept the fact that they can not avoid PvP if others bring it to the table. If they wish to have a no pewpew policy that is their choice just as much as it is mine to have a pewpew policy.
This would be an interesting place for a charismatic and competent high sec leader to arise. The game is crying out in need for it. If anything would create one the situation and pressure he has made might or could. It will be interesting to see where his butterfly effects falls. I
But we're all inter connected in these things. The Butterfly Efect trailer is so popular for these reasons. Or, we can play X degrees from whomever.
Minor Trivia: I'm 2 degrees from Kevin Bacon.
The single shard nature of Eve is fantastic. The game is large enough that not knowing people is normal but the possibility of bumping into them still exists. I have had a few such situations of late.
Cynide Jester wrote a blog post about being ransomed. The following day, Druur comments that associates of his ransomed someone for a song. He found Cynide Jester's blog and connected the dots. For me, it was amusing because I know them both.
A second was when Lain soloed (good job there!) someone from another corp. That corp happens to be an associate corp of someone that I know and hang out with. It turns a random kill into a 'Oh I know them or I know of them' which makes the entire situation more interesting.
Those types of connections are all over Eve. It has filled Eve with e-celebrities. It also adds to the rise and fall of people across the game. Someone may know you but someone else may know you but people may always be an unnoticeably close distance from someone else. Not everyone looks beyond the game for their information and interaction so many people do not recognize the famous people. It grows even more amusing in a fleet when some people do things like listen to Eve Radio or Pod Casts and others have never taken an interest in such things. Then, one person recognizes someone that died and says how they are an “e-celebrety” and other people are like, “So? Dunno who they are.”
Some names are larger than others. Some people have cults around them. Some have grown organically (buzz word extra points!) and others have grown them by sheer force of personality or will.
James315 is someone people may or may not recognize. People that follow blogs, forums and news may recognize him. He started off with long winded but excellently written posts on the forums about how miners were killing Eve and advanced to creating his New Order where he uses the non-combat action of bumping spaceships against each other to fight against AFK miners and botters.
I don’t have an opinion one way or another on his goals and motives. I’m glad hes out playing the game in such a way that engages others and himself. He pisses a lot of people off but their anger is a deep burn that causes them to wish retaliation on him. Such as Eve should be and such is the actual topic of my thoughts.
A few weeks ago someone told me that the Miners that inhabit the systems that James315 has claimed as his own were going to retaliate and stop him finally. How they were going to do this was unsure. It seems that the simplest way to make a point to someone, blowing up their spaceship, was unacceptable.
I had to ask why?
“Because we will not lower ourselves to his level.”
I will admit, as simple and clear as that sounds I don’t understand it. All the methods that they have attempted to change their situation have failed. A stack of methods have been looked at and put aside because they would be lowering themselves. Those methods are PvP focused.
Now, if someone does not wish to PvP I will not force them. I expect them to accept the fact that they can not avoid PvP if others bring it to the table. If they wish to have a no pewpew policy that is their choice just as much as it is mine to have a pewpew policy.
This would be an interesting place for a charismatic and competent high sec leader to arise. The game is crying out in need for it. If anything would create one the situation and pressure he has made might or could. It will be interesting to see where his butterfly effects falls. I
But we're all inter connected in these things. The Butterfly Efect trailer is so popular for these reasons. Or, we can play X degrees from whomever.
Minor Trivia: I'm 2 degrees from Kevin Bacon.
We've had James grace us. In the end, the best thing to do is not get too involved. Any and all tears are a win for him. Bumping is only bumping, though it should be acknowledged that their gank squads can be pretty effective.
ReplyDeleteTank your ships, troll him back in return by all means. He seems not to like it too much, and will go focus on someone else. Make him waste his time. Point out that if he's bumping you. he's not bugging others. If there is one thing you can do, its be more patient.
As far as the charismatic leader in high sec, the carebears could potentially be a huge force if someone managed to harness them. The problem is high sec tends to be for the casual player. One who wants to do his or her own thing, and not have to worry about CTAs etc etc.
It would take a powerful motivator to get the casuals involved, in force, and to keep them engaged. I'm unsure a single individual could do that without an external factor that has them up in arms in the first place.
Not sure how you harness the power of the AFK miner. Many have tried, but all have failed because no one listens and it is ultimately a boring and thankless job.
DeleteOur most sucessful gank corp was started by miners to fight us. It didn't take them long to see who was having more fun in the game.
The Zazz guy on yesterday's blog post was trying to protect miners with his Griffin a couple of months ago. Now he's an up and coming Agent of the New Order.
Anyone with enough motivation to fight us will quickly grow tired of fighting to protect AFK miners who do nothing to protect themselves.