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A Look Over Bounties

People are charging off to examine Odyssey.  I'm still eyeballing Retribution. I may be slow.  I'm fine with that. I also don't want to look at Odyssey.  Watching Minmatar receive another nerf is unpleasant and I still can't speak about Hurricanes without a few years escaping.  Even with a new expansion coming dropping Retribution and walking away from it would be silly, or so I think.

I'm wondering about bounties.  The old bounty system was a ridiculous  abusive mess.  The new ones has flooded the forums with tears enough to satiate almost any appetite.  The payout was reduced to a sensible 20% of the cost of the ship and lost modules and also split across the fleet or killers.

There was a lot of hope that bounty payments would help to feed PvPrs.  I pulled my bounties for the last two months and the results are a bit anemic.
  • 2013.03.24 20:24:30         Bounty Prize      357,937.58 ISK  
  • 2013.03.24 06:04:20         Bounty Prize      35,035.00 ISK     
  • 2013.03.24 05:59:21         Bounty Prize      712,376.32 ISK  
  • 2013.03.23 01:15:18         Bounty Prize      14,503.91 ISK     
  • 2013.03.10 23:55:09         Bounty Prize      96,139.85 ISK     
  • 2013.03.10 23:48:55         Bounty Prize      677,854.62 ISK  
  • 2013.03.10 10:47:37         Bounty Prize      142,857.14 ISK  
  • 2013.03.10 08:37:26         Bounty Prize      111,111.11 ISK  
  • 2013.03.10 07:00:20         Bounty Prize      1,061,113.20 ISK               
  • 2013.03.08 02:12:43         Bounty Prize      5,555.56 ISK       
  • 2013.02.24 07:06:16         Bounty Prize      1,239,143.79 ISK               
  • 2013.02.24 07:01:16         Bounty Prize      13,701.54 ISK     
  • 2013.02.24 05:25:20         Bounty Prize      16,666.67 ISK     
  • 2013.02.19 01:42:56         Bounty Prize      119,485.56 ISK  
  • 2013.02.10 04:44:04         Bounty Prize      462,368.55 ISK                  
  • 2013.02.09 20:43:49         Bounty Prize      66,438.47 ISK     
  • 2013.01.30 01:52:02         Bounty Prize      129,417.91 ISK  
  • 2013.01.27 07:33:16         Bounty Prize      45,833.33 ISK     
  • 2013.01.27 07:21:46         Bounty Prize      1,666,666.67 ISK               
  • 2013.01.27 04:53:17         Bounty Prize      1,277,508.06 ISK               
  • 2013.01.27 04:48:17         Bounty Prize      10,000.00 ISK     
  • 2013.01.27 01:49:42         Bounty Prize      12,500.00 ISK     
  • 2013.01.27 01:06:32         Bounty Prize      11,111.11 ISK     
  • 2013.01.27 01:01:32         Bounty Prize      11,222.22 ISK      
I am what I consider a normal, average every day pirate.  I fly in small gangs and I shoot everything that moves.  I fight as many pirates as not pirates. If I was trying to feed myself off of bounties I would starve. I'm not sure that 20% is enough.

Or am I not average.  For example. Uebrlisk kills everything and lives a bit better life as a pirate then I do.  Sometimes he kills 2 billion isk marauders and collects 250mil bounties from them.

Is Uebr the measure or am I? Or is it something else?  Do we balance to Uebr's level of badassery or my level of mediocre?  Or is it just right?  Are bounty payments just a pretty flashing icon to remind me that someone just exploded when a big fight is going down?

The avoidance of abuse is important. However, if it is to be more then pretty window dressing I am not sure that these numbers hold up as something that someone can point to as a viable lifestyle to fend for themselves.  Not everyone can be Uebrlisk, King of the South. 

If bounties are just an occasional bonus, cool.  If they are supposed to be a true motivator, maybe my expectations were higher.


  1. Interesting - sounds like another element of things, like Rixx Javix's recent post "Pirating on a Budget".

    For more than that I suppose you have to go to full mercenary type levels. Or scan and gank goody-laden freighters in highsec.

    p.s. "a few tears escaping" or is the Hurricane nerf taking years off your life? :)


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