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On: Cloaking really does stop game play?

I love the Eve Online Forums. I love them with a simple, clean amusement that comes from the amount of chuckling I get from them. While they are filled with trolling and terrible ideas, the amount of wit, sarcasm and snappy responses that fill them make up for it.

I came across this gem tonight and was amused by it for much of the evening.

AFK Cloaking is botting.

I've been reading AFK cloaking threads off and on. I realized, as I read this one today, that people really are under siege by this.

I couldn't understand why. There are neutrals in the systems that I go into all of the time. I try to scout myself, avoid gatecamps and watch for combat probes as I do things.

I understand that I may explode/will explode at any time. Its all part of daily life.

I don't live in nullsec. I venture down there sometimes to rat and sometimes to roam. I don't pretend to understand how nullsec works for people, how the large alliances work, and etc.

It just never occurred to me that it would really shut people down.

I've had my days when I fret a bit. There are six stations in my home system and I can't be bothered to check them all to see if a neutral party is docked up on not. Plus, they may undock at any time. So, I go about my day.

It puzzles me that people cannot/do not.

Some comments about lockdown orders when there is an neutral in system. Everyone is to dock/pos up.

Lockdown orders... hmm... why?

The risk is that a ship might be lost. That is a common risk, so why worry about it until the attack happens or the ship is lost? Sure, it could be a cyno and then they hot drop and all that type of thing but that's part of the game as well.

So, it seems it cloaking in a system and causing the residents to slow to a stop is a popular tactic. I thought it was mostly an Intel type of situation. See who comes and goes, what they fly, where they live. Yet it is truly a tactic that can shut down an entire systems operations. It is taking the risk that they are there and able to hurt you and deciding that the possible loss is worth more then the actual lost productivity.

It just would not occur to me to stop everything. Maybe if I had blinged out ships or something. Still, there are reams of people that are being camped into their systems by someone that may or may not be there.

When they know the person is there will will probably be to late to not have an engagement at hand. I think I assumed that anyone living in nullsec expected that type of thing at any moment.


  1. You don't understand social people. They don't afraid of losing a ship.

    They afraid of "being pwned".
    They afraid of getting on someones killboard as a trophy.
    They afraid of being laughed at, called noobs on local.
    They afraid of their e-peen shrinking.

    You see things as they are: ships are assets. ISK. Can be converted to time spent making ISK. Losing a ship is 2-3 more anomalies for you to replace. You don't hate anomalies anyway.

    They see things as means to gain respect/liking of peers. Every act of their life is scrutinized and double-checked to make sure it doesn't draw disrespect/dislike on them.

    You can't even imagine how miserable they are for thinking that way. A hint: they rather self-destruct a 30B supercap in combat, giving up both the hope that they'll be saved and the chance to kill a dozen subcaps before going down, just to avoid getting to the killboard.

    I don't know why you don't see this, maybe because you are female (this nonsense is called e-PEEN for a reason, it derives from the hierarchy of apes where only the alpha male could mate while female apes all mate) or maybe because you are a natural born a-social. Anyway you have no clue how lucky you are for being you and not one of them.

    1. I feel that I may understand social people but I may not understand people whos value is based upon their social status and their social status is based upon points that you have made.

      It is certainly not my game of Eve. I don't particularly enjoy being someone's killboard stat. However, it is part of the day in and day out that I admit, I assumed, everyone took for granted.

      I've debated the topic of mandated self destruct orders as well. They too confuse me. However, I acknowledge that my lack of experience would limit my topic to my own personal muddle of confusion.


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