tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-238324579504790.post8630175537064812683..comments2024-03-05T12:41:20.217-05:00Comments on Low Sec Lifestyle: Change on the Solar WindSugar Kylehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/15437978687639772023noreply@blogger.comBlogger13125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-238324579504790.post-71358373948768016662015-02-20T17:51:35.733-05:002015-02-20T17:51:35.733-05:00I think Angry Onion is dead-on. I quit at 2.75 ye...I think Angry Onion is dead-on. I quit at 2.75 years. I tried to find a group that wanted me for industry, PI, hauling, PvE... never found anyone. I dislike PvP, and all any recruiter wants is a trigger finger (or a miner-bot). I had done most areas solo, including WH PI and ratting, PvE and industry in 0.0.<br />I just got tired of being hunted like an animal every second, with no allies, and no success at finding a corp that wanted me.<br />Got AWOXed trying. <br />So now I play Space Enginneers, with a mod that gives me EvE skies. MUCH more fun, less frustration and stress.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-238324579504790.post-26869741474343081222015-02-19T13:01:24.578-05:002015-02-19T13:01:24.578-05:00You seem to be missing all the options that surrou...You seem to be missing all the options that surrounding yourself with other players provides. Just because you are non-pvp oriented doesn't mean you can't successfully integrate into a group of people that does pvp and will value you for what you do. For a solo player trying to not get involved in the conflict of Eve though, that seems a very truthful telling...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-238324579504790.post-7798523785620121212015-02-19T02:49:29.537-05:002015-02-19T02:49:29.537-05:00"So, Angry Onion (and any others), in your op..."So, Angry Onion (and any others), in your opinion what choices do non-pvpers have in Eve? (Not including quitting the game, that one is too obvious)"<br /><br />Non-PvPrs eventually quit. Yet in the meanwhile they find a little niche (there's several of them) and stick to it until they find themselves in a dead end. Then they either move onto another niche or quit.<br /><br />In my experience, the average non-PvPr stays for about three years. Industrialists last longer if they collect BPOs as that's a forever task. Some non-PvPrs are evicted sooner by CCP's changes or a environmental change caused by PvPrs.<br /><br />As a non-PvPr, a EVE player can not play the game in his terms. He can not "generate content" nor "influence" other players, rather this arms are tied to his back by a game where everything revolves around shooting other players. Preferably while outnumbering them. <br /><br />When you're being shot at, the game will not allow anything else but run or shoot back. Sometimes not even running is an option. Nothign you can do as a non-PvPr is of any use when PvPrs come after you.<br /><br />And even if that doesn't happen, you will just hit a glass ceiling and will wonder why you need or want anything more from your niche.<br /><br />So, TL;DR: <br />Q: What choices have non-PvPrs in EVE? <br />A: Play for a while and go away, or be evicted by CCP, or be kicked by PvPrs. "Play this way or go away": If you're not PvPing, you're playing EVE wrong.Angry Onionshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02750018939886265706noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-238324579504790.post-73757971842093375692015-02-18T19:20:29.480-05:002015-02-18T19:20:29.480-05:00See, I'd've thought of that if I ever used...See, I'd've thought of that if I ever used the launcher for anything other than updates....lol<br /><br />Even still, the launcher ain't the game and it's hard to get immersed in it, my immersion doesn't kick in until I'm looking at my ship. It's also something that's there for only a few seconds while you get logged in and the client is starting up. It doesn't have a chance to show new developments as they happen. The launcher can't ping your notifications to get your attention either so it isn't really a good way to make news widely known.<br /><br />We have multitudes of ways to spread news, yet they all fail because they aren't in the game client where any average player can see them at a glance.<br /><br />-Baljos ArnjakAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-238324579504790.post-83637138095522397202015-02-18T17:27:34.323-05:002015-02-18T17:27:34.323-05:00So, Angry Onion (and any others), in your opinion ...So, Angry Onion (and any others), in your opinion what choices do non-pvpers have in Eve? (Not including quitting the game, that one is too obvious)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-238324579504790.post-42746684266331342962015-02-18T16:38:51.745-05:002015-02-18T16:38:51.745-05:00"@Angry Onions: Since most people don't r..."@Angry Onions: Since most people don't really like being targets (even if they can fight back or target others) I think you just pointed out exactly why a lot of players leave. They may see the 'Be the Hero, Be the Villain' advert, but they also need to see 'Be the victim' and 'Be the survivor' ones too."<br /><br />It's not just EVE. All PvP games fade when nobody else wants to be the next easy prey padding the killboard of someone who's been mastering the shit for years.<br /><br />Angry Onionshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02750018939886265706noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-238324579504790.post-26752806146686784892015-02-18T13:19:05.568-05:002015-02-18T13:19:05.568-05:00@Angry Onions: Since most people don't really ...@Angry Onions: Since most people don't really like being targets (even if they can fight back or target others) I think you just pointed out exactly why a lot of players leave. They may see the 'Be the Hero, Be the Villain' advert, but they also need to see 'Be the victim' and 'Be the survivor' ones too.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-238324579504790.post-76376707891713080572015-02-18T12:27:56.737-05:002015-02-18T12:27:56.737-05:00I have always felt there should be, at he very lea...I have always felt there should be, at he very least, some kind of a 'splash screen' on start up/login that gives a quick over view of recent changes and things to look out for... oh... wait... =P<br /><br />Sorry, you don't wanna read the warnings, signs and portents... you deserve a Drifter up the... well, you know.Turamarth Elrandirhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08129383421613323047noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-238324579504790.post-50655357439505381762015-02-18T09:36:29.747-05:002015-02-18T09:36:29.747-05:00Without disagreeing with Anonymous, I would point ...Without disagreeing with Anonymous, I would point out that such intriguing desires are easier to enthusiastically support than they are to incorporate. One difficulty is clutter. Eve teams with NPC convoys and we capsuleers can prey on them (http://www.eve-wiki.net/index.php?title=Attacking_Convoys) but they are white cross untidiness most of the time like the Concord, Faction Police and Gate Guns surrounding Hi-Sec jump gates so we tend to eliminate them from our UIs.<br /><br />The new Sleepers and Drifters are red crosses thereby intruding into our awareness. I suspect that if the already present white crosses began intruding on our awareness in similar manner, capsuleer’s would raise holy hell about the horrible UI that doesn’t enable ignoring them.<br /><br />So, referring back one post (http://www.lowseclifestyle.com/2015/02/all-things-said.html), some of this lively background already exists. Ain’t entirely CCP’s fault we don’t partake. That said, there’s vast room for improvement so I merely wish to emphasize remaining cognizant of the difficult balancing act we’re requesting of CCP. It’s not a fool’s errand, just an exacting one.<br /><br />Oh, and the new Drifters very possibly befuddling bots tickles me to no end.<br />DireNecessitynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-238324579504790.post-91646260901898365482015-02-18T09:31:08.371-05:002015-02-18T09:31:08.371-05:00Maybe something that would be helpful in dissemina...Maybe something that would be helpful in disseminating new developments would be a World News button on the Neocom. That way you could have that button flash and send out a notification with the new notification system when a new news item pops up.<br /><br />Seems like a simple addition that could give a big return in player immersion in the world.<br /><br />-Baljos ArnjakAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-238324579504790.post-16123131569829693812015-02-18T09:03:44.804-05:002015-02-18T09:03:44.804-05:00Come on Anonymous, they (CCP) can't think of t...Come on Anonymous, they (CCP) can't think of their players as anything else than targets for other players, and yet you want them to think of NPCs as anything else than red crosses to shoot at?<br />Angry Onionshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02750018939886265706noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-238324579504790.post-53435495416698215182015-02-18T04:19:12.017-05:002015-02-18T04:19:12.017-05:00I would love to see far more non-combat elements a...I would love to see far more non-combat elements as well. Today I tried to make peaceful contact with the drifters and everything seemed fine for a few minutes of me orbitting them at around 15km. I warped off to check out their unidentified wormhole stuff, then came back to visit with them more only to get scanned and shot at a second later. All the clues point to them being humans, so why can't we talk about things as well as do the war game thing? Why can't we help SoE deliver aid to starving colonists in a disaster area? If the drifters are homeless, why can't we build them a station and live in peace? If they're just going to fly around and randomly shoot everything, I can think of better ways to spend $14.95 a month. Butternut Squash for one....Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-238324579504790.post-49668545614622126832015-02-18T00:51:11.653-05:002015-02-18T00:51:11.653-05:00This has been called for a lot in the past. That E...This has been called for a lot in the past. That EVE needs more life aside from players. <br /><br />When I first joined EVE in 2010, one of my first questions was, where's the war? I thought the Gallente/Caldari war was being fought by players and NPCs, with a frontline. I wanted to go fight in it. <br /><br />Then I found out what FW was and almost quit the game all together. That was just 1 week into EVE. <br /><br />I want to see Serpentis fighting Gallente at the gates, and stations. Or Angel Cartel doing raids into Hek to attack the Minmatar. Let players take part and choose a side to shoot at. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com