tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-238324579504790.post7160558121655064740..comments2024-03-05T12:41:20.217-05:00Comments on Low Sec Lifestyle: Blog Banter #61 - Freedom Must be TakenSugar Kylehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/15437978687639772023noreply@blogger.comBlogger10125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-238324579504790.post-13590689808493080792014-12-10T17:25:54.753-05:002014-12-10T17:25:54.753-05:00I'm that contrary did poorly in. Irmal structu...I'm that contrary did poorly in. Irmal structured things kinda person. In this I can indulge my true desires because its a game. <br /><br />It may be niche but I'm okay with that.Sugar Kylehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15437978687639772023noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-238324579504790.post-59841556069197599582014-12-10T17:23:54.091-05:002014-12-10T17:23:54.091-05:00What bothers you about the bulk of the answers?What bothers you about the bulk of the answers?Sugar Kylehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15437978687639772023noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-238324579504790.post-84421091783396968372014-12-10T17:23:27.368-05:002014-12-10T17:23:27.368-05:00Ahh, you two :). I love this discussion.Ahh, you two :). I love this discussion.Sugar Kylehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15437978687639772023noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-238324579504790.post-32887747918549779742014-12-09T17:01:01.541-05:002014-12-09T17:01:01.541-05:00Sugar, your answer to that question is the only o...Sugar, your answer to that question is the only one I have read that doesn't make me want to scream. I vote it BEST ANSWER EVER.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-238324579504790.post-73160581098670952572014-12-09T15:20:37.919-05:002014-12-09T15:20:37.919-05:00Ha! I've definitely observed the same thing i...Ha! I've definitely observed the same thing in my family. We say, "Kids are like cats. They'll find the one person who's not interested in them and make that person their best friend."<br /><br />The problem with that comparison is that new players aren't nearly as vested in Eve as kids are in the house where everyone's gathering. The kids are a captive audience... they have no choice but to make do with what people and toys they have nearby.<br /><br />New players can - and clearly do - decide it's not worth the time to learn and they wander off to another game, missing gameplay that might appeal to them because they don't know it's there, or how to get there.Talvorian Dexhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01349917611382684205noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-238324579504790.post-433621969060870012014-12-09T14:37:25.235-05:002014-12-09T14:37:25.235-05:00Allow me to tell you a story Talvorian. If you’re...Allow me to tell you a story Talvorian. If you’re old, like the hands behind the Dire, there are grandbabies in the family. Grandbabies are a special type of joy. Accordingly, at family gatherings, garnering their attention can get a bit competitive. By day’s end, I usually win these competitions. Here’s how . . .<br /><br />The other Grands, anxious for a little baby time, arrive on scene and begin searching out babies to collect hugs and kisses. All too often the babies find this a little onerous. Some adult swoops you up, prying you away from whatever you were doing and promptly demands hugs and kisses. Me, I don’t partake. Instead, I put the baby in charge. It’s devilishly simple . . .<br /><br />Kids often prefer to hang where the action is (underfoot) so after I’ve said my hellos to the adults I plunk myself down *on the floor* at the foot of the couch and wait. “Ooh! Someone to climb on,” sparkles the 1 year old’s eyes and suddenly I have her attention. Now children are a jealous lot so pretty quickly the 4 year old plunks down in my lap with a book I’m supposed to read to her (cleverly displacing the 1 year old). Now I have two kid’s attention. (Juggling time between climbing infant and 4 year old is great fun.) The 3 year old is usually the last to acknowledge me. He’s rather independent. Not asocial, just independent. He’s still a kid though, and kids mimic. So before long he’s sitting beside me, legs and arms in similar position to mine demanding my smart phone. I have no special games on my smart phone. Just google and a camera. For reason’s I’m unaware of, ‘adult’ smart phones are best meaning the 3 year old takes great delight in pressing letters into google search and/or taking pictures. Now like all 3 year olds, his attention is a little scattered so occasionally the phone goes to sleep on him. I’ve tried to jump in and reawaken the phone but the imposition is unappreciated so now I just wait. He’ll poke at the phone, often multiple times until he figures out that this may well be a ‘need help’ situation and brings the phone to me. Now I have 3 kids’ attention. They wander off and return as they see fit. Most of the time at least one kid is utilizing me for something. No other Grands manage that level of engagement.<br /><br />Sometimes it’s best not to impose anything. Instead, one can just listen and only then respond.<br /><br />CCP is actually pursuing just such approach. Instead of relying solely on a set of New Player Experience classes they’re expending resources on things like easy, intuitively available answers to questions that may arise via ISIS, pop-ups, better UI and whatever else they have up their sleeve.<br />DireNecessitynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-238324579504790.post-71153993003872677602014-12-09T12:24:39.254-05:002014-12-09T12:24:39.254-05:00But advice is just a starting point. People receiv...But advice is just a starting point. People receiving it are meant to sick the value out of it, discard the husk, and outgrow it. It's like the opening position of a negotiation: instrumental.<br /><br />Nothing is carved in stone, and even if it were, stone can be broken.Talvorian Dexhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01349917611382684205noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-238324579504790.post-52746979318177529102014-12-09T12:21:00.365-05:002014-12-09T12:21:00.365-05:00That's the reason for structured training prog...That's the reason for structured training programs for nearly all disciplines. The goal is for graduates to outgrow and exceed limits of experience and training, but you can't do that until you're shown the options.Talvorian Dexhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01349917611382684205noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-238324579504790.post-68535954541384305562014-12-09T09:41:55.483-05:002014-12-09T09:41:55.483-05:00I feel for you Sugar,
If you proceed over to http...I feel for you Sugar,<br /><br />If you proceed over to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_cognitive_biases you’ll find a mindbogglingly long list and tucked away in that bunch is:<br /><br />Naïve realism: The belief that we see reality as it really is – objectively and without bias; that the facts are plain for all to see; that rational people will agree with us; and that those who don't are either uninformed, lazy, irrational, or biased.<br /><br />Trying to get such people to see a bigger picture, to shake free of “one set of advice for everyone”, to accept there really are other opinions and those opinions matter is aggravatingly difficult.DireNecessitynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-238324579504790.post-76087120346199070042014-12-09T06:55:47.541-05:002014-12-09T06:55:47.541-05:00In principle I agree that newbros should just try ...In principle I agree that newbros should just try what they feel like. This works if they have a reasonable idea of how EVE is or is otherwise open minded, or perhaps have not played many SP video games or theme park MMOs (i.e. where the whole universe revolves around you, and you don't really need any one else).<br /><br />In practice, I don't think many incoming players are like that. Left to their own devices without well intended guidance, they often fall back to old habits with pre-existing prejudices that are often not conducive to deep EVE experiences in the long term. (This is not a criticism, this is just natural.)<br /><br />I think without the benefit of slightly forceful guidance at the start, such players tend to do their own thing for some time, even years, after which they've become too entrenched to "start again". (EVE is a game that attracts very stubborn people.) This is when forum/blog ranting takes over. <br /><br />Note: the point is not that the newbro should find the single career to fall in love with from the get go, but to be exposed to the various mechanisms and systems (particularly non consensual PvP) that make up the game as a whole. Learn what EVE is and is not, to avoid future misunderstanding and potential tears. The biggest misconception of the sandbox is that any single player is *entitled* to play their game however they want.<br /><br />KN<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com