tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-238324579504790.post6871112965576981526..comments2024-03-05T12:41:20.217-05:00Comments on Low Sec Lifestyle: A Broken Contract - ConclusionSugar Kylehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/15437978687639772023noreply@blogger.comBlogger4125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-238324579504790.post-21778640170347995232014-06-28T13:47:14.978-04:002014-06-28T13:47:14.978-04:00Its much easier to just make a nearly empty courie...Its much easier to just make a nearly empty courier package with the same name, tell the issuer that when you press complete you get an error message, but will station trade the courier container for the reward, so you dont have to wait for the petition to be resolved.Michael Hararihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09517146411993214986noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-238324579504790.post-10604432347199425082014-06-28T07:22:58.753-04:002014-06-28T07:22:58.753-04:00I think there should be a connection to the contra...I think there should be a connection to the contract package and the contract itself. When you'd repackage the package you get the contract pop up and you must fail the contract before the repackage is completed. This stops accidental repackaging and remove most of the scams.<br /><br />About me: I always overcollateral with 10-20%. If the contract fails or expires, I win more than I'd win with its completion. So if the courier messes it up, or gets ganked, I just let it lapse, claim the money and tell him to do whatever he wants with the items. Of course it means I also overpay 10-20%, but I pay that premium for safety.Gevlonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07072766785893313616noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-238324579504790.post-16839600078899969762014-06-27T22:39:31.634-04:002014-06-27T22:39:31.634-04:00"But the one doing the hauling can look in th..."But the one doing the hauling can look in the package and see the items right?" Yes<br /><br />"But there is no way for the original contract maker to see what was in a particular contract." Apparently the game doesn't tell you. You could record what you are placing in a courier contract outside of the game. Seems CCP could respond with either a, “Yah, tracking your courier contract contents for you would be a nice quality of life feature,” or a, “Are you nuts? We’re not secretaries, file your own records.”<br /><br />"If anything you would want it the other way around so that people could not rip people off who put to low a collateral on their contracts." Huh? I think couriers have a right to know what they are carrying. Demanding proper collateral from the courier already protects the issuer from thievery. Issuers don’t need double protection.<br /><br />If I follow the narrative correctly, Sugar’s bumbling couriers may have actually stumbled across a possible scam:<br />1) Claim a courier contract<br />2) Peek inside<br />3) Separately acquire most of the courier contract contents (leave out a valuable juicy or two)<br />4) Haul both the courier contract and most of the matching contents to the destination<br />4) Deliver the most of the contents portion of the haul via trade claiming you mistakenly unwrapped the package but here’s your stuff at no charge, please just return the collateral<br />5) If the mark bites and approves the not quite matching trade contract you then suddenly deliver the original courier contract, get your collateral back and profit twice<br />6) If the mark doesn’t bite you deliver the courier contract, pocket the delivery fee, haul off the unbought sorta matching contents and return home scot-free<br /><br />Seems like a lot of work for a scam but if Sugar’s couriers are bumbling enough to screw up in the first place they may well be bumbling enough to try this<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-238324579504790.post-63696324294962207692014-06-27T21:17:52.107-04:002014-06-27T21:17:52.107-04:00So far I've only ever done a couple of these w...So far I've only ever done a couple of these with an alt. But the one doing the hauling can look in the package and see the items right? But there is no way for the original contract maker to see what was in a particular contract. That's just dumb. If anything you would want it the other way around so that people could not rip people off who put to low a collateral on their contracts. And the ones using the service could keep track of their items across space.Kethry Avengerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06839045983974381623noreply@blogger.com