tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-238324579504790.post2559125762474436236..comments2024-03-05T12:41:20.217-05:00Comments on Low Sec Lifestyle: What I Learned From a Weekend of Rookie ChatSugar Kylehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/15437978687639772023noreply@blogger.comBlogger35125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-238324579504790.post-44590041570532583622014-11-27T13:56:50.569-05:002014-11-27T13:56:50.569-05:00"hey guys my mission is to mine minerals but ..."hey guys my mission is to mine minerals but when i right click and warp to an astroid belt i don't see any asteroids...."<br />sorry if this is covered already, I'm skimming tonight...<br /><br />the overview doesn't default to asteroids showing - empty belts might be a thing (fixable in noob systems?) but it might just be not having the preset mining tab enabled<br /><br />I'll read a bit and come back tomorrow if there's some input I can givetidnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-238324579504790.post-54522916216594975092014-11-25T09:11:02.237-05:002014-11-25T09:11:02.237-05:00For whatever reason, CCP doesn't automatically...For whatever reason, CCP doesn't automatically add new players to the Help channel. They are instead dumped into Rookie Help and Rookie Chat, whose existence makes about as much sense as a blind seeing eye dog. Once the excitement over helping new players dies down, it will go back to being its usual cesspit of misinformation and trolling.<br /><br />All of the bugs and problems with the New Player Experience were repeatedly and exhaustively reported when it was first released, including the fact that it was archaic and violated every tenet of good tutorial design. And CCP has been studiously refusing to properly improve the NPE in any way since its release. The problem is that CCP doesn't really give a damn about new players. Every few years, CCP will go into panic mode about player retention. It will jury-rig some half-finished brand new systems, then spend a year or so patting itself on the back and loudly announcing how much it cares about new players. This is merely another start of that same cycle.<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-238324579504790.post-37860250938336939242014-11-25T05:28:28.752-05:002014-11-25T05:28:28.752-05:00They are still taught the process of mining, refin...They are still taught the process of mining, refining and manufacturing. The only thing they aren't taught is that Veldspar refines into Tritanium.<br /><br />On the other hand, they don't log in a few hours before downtime and get incredibly confused because they can't find any asteroids in the asteroid belts.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-238324579504790.post-8421227287796315942014-11-24T23:01:02.733-05:002014-11-24T23:01:02.733-05:00One worry with fake stuff is teaching them about t...One worry with fake stuff is teaching them about the real stuff.Sugar Kylehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15437978687639772023noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-238324579504790.post-2921705471531535522014-11-24T23:00:14.697-05:002014-11-24T23:00:14.697-05:00Perhaps but empty belts still spawn NPCs to hunt.Perhaps but empty belts still spawn NPCs to hunt.Sugar Kylehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15437978687639772023noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-238324579504790.post-58406495952806061142014-11-24T22:59:17.589-05:002014-11-24T22:59:17.589-05:00Reddit and even Rookie chat discusses scamming and...Reddit and even Rookie chat discusses scamming and trust issues as well. Its not all blind love. :)Sugar Kylehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15437978687639772023noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-238324579504790.post-30218500206471134922014-11-24T22:18:33.287-05:002014-11-24T22:18:33.287-05:00years ago I ran a training group in another game.
...years ago I ran a training group in another game.<br /><br />the motto was "Newbie School: Turning Newbies into Targets since 1998"Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-238324579504790.post-41784919930609664982014-11-24T19:24:16.294-05:002014-11-24T19:24:16.294-05:00So now we've got this massive influx of new pl...So now we've got this massive influx of new players all conditioned to expect helpful and useful advice from their fellow players in chat channels.<br /><br />How long do you think it will be before they get hit with massive scams, and fall for them because all of their other interactions had such positive outcomes?<br /><br />EVE players can be some of the best helpers, but also some of the biggest jerks; I fully expect this to happen.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-238324579504790.post-15320265283746132632014-11-24T16:21:02.211-05:002014-11-24T16:21:02.211-05:00I have an even better idea: Player/Community drive...I have an even better idea: Player/Community driven PvE content! <br />Ann spawns a site which is encountered by Brian who sells the rewards to Charlie who triggers an event for Danny and Emma who bring Brian with them...Angry Onionshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02750018939886265706noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-238324579504790.post-30845766163560671482014-11-24T16:13:45.224-05:002014-11-24T16:13:45.224-05:00Well today they did a whole dev post sending peopl...Well today they did a whole dev post sending people to player resources and answering some basic questions. There has been a big push to join a corp and the suggestions are flying in rookie chat to get people working with other people.<br /><br />I'm adding the belt stuff to my summit topic list.Sugar Kylehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15437978687639772023noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-238324579504790.post-4008485169470020442014-11-24T16:13:14.784-05:002014-11-24T16:13:14.784-05:00You wouldn't say the same if yours was one of ...You wouldn't say the same if yours was one of the 31 language communities gutted off by CCP's lack of balls to tackle the Russian harrassment on the Ukrainian chat channel.<br /><br />Also helping your newbros is very difficult when they don't speak one of the master race languages and so can't figure where or to whom ask their doubts....Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-238324579504790.post-8918946531071637982014-11-24T16:08:49.200-05:002014-11-24T16:08:49.200-05:00The last time I was in a rookie system (over 12 mo...The last time I was in a rookie system (over 12 months back) it contained various riff-raff who; were can-baiting, scanning down newbies to intercede in their tutorials and spamming scam contracts. I don't suppose CCP will be taking a more aggressive stance against idiots that target new players?<br /><br />Solutions for the lack of ores in the newbie systems, is that the tutorial missions each have a individual deadspace belt. Then have continuous grav-sites which will auto-spawn low-end ores - (for the fun factor) add Incursion level rats programmed to target the mining barges of experienced players.<br /><br />Since the Sisters arc is suggested by the tutorial, do you know Sugar if this is to be looked at? ie maybe not direct the influx of newbies into yet more PvE content. But towards player/community driven content?Easy Eskyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17882509080454825895noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-238324579504790.post-2996761388157696792014-11-24T14:28:34.349-05:002014-11-24T14:28:34.349-05:00How about this: Don't kill them, but do everyt...How about this: Don't kill them, but do everything else you have described.Vince Snettertonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00645892172885793532noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-238324579504790.post-8231888765273412142014-11-24T14:19:58.876-05:002014-11-24T14:19:58.876-05:00My corp is doing our small part... we kill all noo...My corp is doing our small part... we kill all noobs who wander in our hole and then convo, send ISK and see if they are open, most are, to discussing this great game we play... most nights lately we always have a noob or 2 in comms...<br /><br />Gives em a feel for how a small wormhole corp lives and plays... good stuff all around.<br /><br /><br />And Sugar...<br /><i>"Crazy... I mean like, so many positive waves... maybe we can't lose, you're on!"</i><br />~OddballTuramarth Elrandirhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08129383421613323047noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-238324579504790.post-57719730982907951642014-11-24T14:09:58.977-05:002014-11-24T14:09:58.977-05:00I would donate to a code. Like group that shot any...I would donate to a code. Like group that shot anything bigger than a venture mining in rookie systems.blutonoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-238324579504790.post-23203608328889924352014-11-24T13:58:14.824-05:002014-11-24T13:58:14.824-05:00Wow U a little madbro? I guess haters just gonna h...Wow U a little madbro? I guess haters just gonna hate... whatta waste of recycled electrons though...Turamarth Elrandirhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08129383421613323047noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-238324579504790.post-64844681762931586082014-11-24T13:38:34.189-05:002014-11-24T13:38:34.189-05:00You can petition using F12? TIL! (I always hit e...You can petition using F12? TIL! (I always hit escape and fumbled around until I found a likely button and clicked it... all handful of times I've needed to petition stuff)Ranamarnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-238324579504790.post-82753855387447581272014-11-24T13:24:32.473-05:002014-11-24T13:24:32.473-05:00Rookie help is ok but when I was new I found the p...Rookie help is ok but when I was new I found the place where I consistently got the most useful help, more detailed answers and the best advice was my starter corps channel.<br /><br />I kind of lucked out in that my first character was in SAK (School of Applied Knowledge). Since then I've characters in many different starter corps, several of the others are pretty good too, but imo the most helpful of them all is still SAK.MoxNixhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12407914481361718041noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-238324579504790.post-76885391090456095062014-11-24T13:01:08.702-05:002014-11-24T13:01:08.702-05:00Code seems to have bigger problems right now.... *...Code seems to have bigger problems right now.... *coughs* Marmites *coughs*Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-238324579504790.post-64719779757776532332014-11-24T12:24:49.966-05:002014-11-24T12:24:49.966-05:00What you underestimate is the number of miners and...What you underestimate is the number of miners and orca boosters who don't know that or are too stubborn to take advantage of it.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-238324579504790.post-84147746567449970242014-11-24T12:22:35.461-05:002014-11-24T12:22:35.461-05:00Then go tell them deal how to deal with the "...Then go tell them deal how to deal with the "griefers". Like it's so difficult to avoid being ganked while mining in hisec.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-238324579504790.post-7428979958827577702014-11-24T12:11:47.849-05:002014-11-24T12:11:47.849-05:00Hey Sams, today you saved a newbie's prophecy+...Hey Sams, today you saved a newbie's prophecy+implants.<br /><br />He was stuck in a wormhole without probes, and since the highsec system he jumped from was only 19j from where I live in lowsec, and I had to participate in a totally boring work conference call, I went to show him the exit.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-238324579504790.post-38312098070360666252014-11-24T11:49:51.115-05:002014-11-24T11:49:51.115-05:00The asteroid belts were never depleted when I star...The asteroid belts were never depleted when I started out. The rookie systems have never been rebalanced to account for the fact that the Venture utterly owns the old mining frigates in terms of both yield and storage.Dersen Lowerynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-238324579504790.post-330406346513910082014-11-24T09:48:56.144-05:002014-11-24T09:48:56.144-05:00You do know you don't have to be within the sa...You do know you don't have to be within the same corporation to use Orca boost? It's a fleet boost. Good luck wardecing those barges, exhumer and the Orca while they are in a NPC corporation! Or good luck ganking the Orca in a 1.0 system. Whatever you prefer.Samsnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-238324579504790.post-63358084536711487682014-11-24T09:45:06.264-05:002014-11-24T09:45:06.264-05:00Yet Eve Offline shows a peak of 43,053 in the past...Yet Eve Offline shows a peak of 43,053 in the past 24 hours, a far cry from the 50K plus we used to get on Sundays. CCP is really going to have to retain a big chunk of this surge of new players, because it sure seems a lot of the older base is not logging on anymore. Let's see what the late December /early January numbers show regarding that player retention once they encounter the griefers of CODE, et al.Vince Snettertonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00645892172885793532noreply@blogger.com