tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-238324579504790.post1631227823266471662..comments2024-03-05T12:41:20.217-05:00Comments on Low Sec Lifestyle: Goodbye Sweet NewbieSugar Kylehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/15437978687639772023noreply@blogger.comBlogger20125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-238324579504790.post-67476654225253939652014-04-26T12:32:05.203-04:002014-04-26T12:32:05.203-04:00Honestly I can't understand the whole scamming...Honestly I can't understand the whole scamming newbie thing. There is no return as they don't have enough isk to be worth the time invested. The kill mail is like wise near worthless unless you are merely tracking kills to death ratios. <br /><br />That said it's another thing to blow up a newbie who wandered into LS or WH. It's a free for all and they are a valid target. Plus they could be a spy. Generally most corp I've been in message them, talk about what they did wrong. If the newbie isn't actively a dick the fleet usually throws x2-4 the isk listed in the killmail at the newbie. Depending on the corp recruitment isn't out of the question.<br /><br />Personally I tend just point them and warn them that the next guy will clean their clocks.Surlochttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17260917116599766645noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-238324579504790.post-2281997977261402872014-04-25T14:21:54.621-04:002014-04-25T14:21:54.621-04:00Tbh I'd rather see corp scam ppl banned then t...Tbh I'd rather see corp scam ppl banned then the likes of ero1. But ccp can't figure out what's really good for the game. Ero1s victim is still playing eve. Almost everyone I know that's had the goons steal all their stuff In a recruitment scam usually quits. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-238324579504790.post-25626146407280695932014-04-25T05:16:05.985-04:002014-04-25T05:16:05.985-04:00I commit one of the greatest sins in this game. I ...I commit one of the greatest sins in this game. I admit that I have emotions about things. I know it is the way that it is. I still miss the fun and interesting people that I no longer see.Sugar Kylehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15437978687639772023noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-238324579504790.post-57028719584548580362014-04-25T01:54:00.069-04:002014-04-25T01:54:00.069-04:00you been playing eve way to long m8.. have forgott...you been playing eve way to long m8.. have forgotten that it is a mmo after all, and like any mmo, you never know who you will be gaming with from month to month.. heck, not even from week to week sometimes.. <br /><br />don't be sad... its a mmo.. it is just the way it is...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-238324579504790.post-41382545979786337212014-04-24T21:18:03.384-04:002014-04-24T21:18:03.384-04:00Ahh, yes. Well, I believe that a side effect of th...Ahh, yes. Well, I believe that a side effect of the steep learning curve is both forgetting how painful it was and for some arrogance that they succeeded where others failed. <br /><br />Not everyone enjoys helping. Many find it irritating. I think that is normal for nature and I don't expect every individual to want to spend their time newbie helping.<br /><br />However, we need more resources that are obvious for new players. I've been getting a lot of feedback about how hard it can be for them to even start finding success. It shouldn't be. But features such as a recruitment newsletter accessible through the neocom where one could browse corps and maybe read ratings (but god people will abuse that) and find public chats that's better than the current search.<br /><br />Almost every need that we see feels as if it could be an expansion all on its own. It is a huge mountain of small things.Sugar Kylehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15437978687639772023noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-238324579504790.post-2676165054314886672014-04-24T21:01:02.483-04:002014-04-24T21:01:02.483-04:00Heh. Just that if we got commissions for keeping n...Heh. Just that if we got commissions for keeping newbies interested in the game, you'd have collected a ton! Suzariel Kel-Patenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09141394814063525048noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-238324579504790.post-17066362943423004972014-04-24T20:33:27.547-04:002014-04-24T20:33:27.547-04:00A good post. I enjoy your blog very much. Though...A good post. I enjoy your blog very much. Though I have bittervetted out of EVE again, I also listed you in my number 1 spot for the CSM. Good Luck.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-238324579504790.post-64750858334416922252014-04-24T18:18:10.929-04:002014-04-24T18:18:10.929-04:00The fear of hard lines comes because they ether wa...The fear of hard lines comes because they ether walk the edge and play letter of the law vs spirit of the law or the line is so far to one side that it strangles other things without meaning to. In a game that tries to allow the players to create their own society the lord of the flies effect is hard to counter without countering other things as well. I think the worry is that we will have to give something up that makes Eve unique.<br /><br />I agree and I should have commented about the lack of enforcement of this particular thing. The wall of limited resources is very, very tall here.Sugar Kylehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15437978687639772023noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-238324579504790.post-51096354513373307102014-04-24T18:14:33.681-04:002014-04-24T18:14:33.681-04:00I find that week 3 is about the point where they a...I find that week 3 is about the point where they are looking for a 'bigger' Eve.Sugar Kylehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15437978687639772023noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-238324579504790.post-35178864506854046072014-04-24T18:13:54.759-04:002014-04-24T18:13:54.759-04:00I agree. Every game tells you how rough it is and ...I agree. Every game tells you how rough it is and then you pown everyone with a broken stick while dressed in some rancid wool eatting unripened berries.Sugar Kylehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15437978687639772023noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-238324579504790.post-39836941046423248912014-04-24T18:08:10.888-04:002014-04-24T18:08:10.888-04:00I have no idea what you mean by that but it sounds...I have no idea what you mean by that but it sounds good. :)Sugar Kylehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15437978687639772023noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-238324579504790.post-10086840612046033532014-04-24T17:06:55.859-04:002014-04-24T17:06:55.859-04:00" Every time this question is brought forward..." Every time this question is brought forward it is met with people who blame people for their ignorance or want hard lines to define what is a newbie and who needs to be protected."<br /><br />I understand why scammers want hard lines regarding protection of newbies; what I don't understand is why it is so hard to draw hard lines for them. (No pun intended). Let's draw the damn lines already. <br /><br />"I mean the ones who sit on the rookie station in a ship with a can and offer duels or try to get them to steal."<br /><br />That's already against the rules, so drawing hard lines is possible, there just aren't enough.Rammsteinnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-238324579504790.post-45058783140524474482014-04-24T17:04:26.261-04:002014-04-24T17:04:26.261-04:00It is great that you took him under your wing. Thi...It is great that you took him under your wing. This is one of the reasons that I voted for you for CSM with all five of my accounts. IE, your nature as someone who understands the problems the game faces. We need more people with your attitude in the game and more importantly, on the CSM.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-238324579504790.post-86393433323644321132014-04-24T16:18:16.427-04:002014-04-24T16:18:16.427-04:00Noooooo. This is, this I can't even describe. ...Noooooo. This is, this I can't even describe. For the sake of the newbie I will say this:<br /><br />1) It's possible in other ways to virtually solo and enjoy the game<br /><br />2) I am playing Intergalactic by the Beastie Boys in honour of you because, well Boys II Men? You had gall. You had guile. Farewell Space Newbie!<br /><br />Cheradenine Harperhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06822231437454134489noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-238324579504790.post-13000712854939227902014-04-23T16:11:40.542-04:002014-04-23T16:11:40.542-04:00I think the tendency of EVE to strangle newbies in...I think the tendency of EVE to strangle newbies in their crib should be more prominent in the advertising. We don't like you! Give us 14 days to make you hate us too! If you survive that, you just might make it! <br /><br />If you can't fix it, feature it!Minerva Zenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03029950228826025765noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-238324579504790.post-34472929818573056682014-04-23T14:31:54.978-04:002014-04-23T14:31:54.978-04:00I won't let a full on newbie join corp unless ...I won't let a full on newbie join corp unless they hung out in our pub chat for a couple days first. I suggest that to EVERYONE in Rookie Help. <br /><br />Also, I completely understand feeling sad at losing a new friend. Amyhttp://independantpraetorian.weebly.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-238324579504790.post-26717140895701086292014-04-23T10:28:43.388-04:002014-04-23T10:28:43.388-04:00Tis truly a sad thing that the new bros are gettin...Tis truly a sad thing that the new bros are getting eaten alive coming out of the gates. Kind of like the little sea turtles scurrying to the ocean after hatching and digging their way out of the sand... only to be eaten up by the seagulls or other birds hovering above.<br /><br />Sorry for you being down one friend but I have complete faith in your ability to make him proud. Looking forward to you getting into the CSM and making shit happen :D.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14575799978041655618noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-238324579504790.post-85105070010222551762014-04-23T09:01:52.044-04:002014-04-23T09:01:52.044-04:00My recommendation to any noob is wait at least a m...My recommendation to any noob is wait at least a month or two before joining a corp. I'm glad I did. I looked, prodded, asked and then found and joined a corp 4 months into my Eve career. It took me this long to figure out what I should be looking for that'll work for me (and the corp). In retrospect this approach worked very well.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00825940388673686481noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-238324579504790.post-91552344268734429422014-04-23T06:33:20.630-04:002014-04-23T06:33:20.630-04:00You are a one-woman player retention empire. :-) You are a one-woman player retention empire. :-) Suzariel Kel-Patenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09141394814063525048noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-238324579504790.post-7769350310634095762014-04-23T05:47:20.636-04:002014-04-23T05:47:20.636-04:00"I do not understand why people prey on the n..."I do not understand why people prey on the newest of characters."<br /><br />You answered your own question, information and knowledge are the natural enemy of scammers and con-men and newbies are the least likely to have access to either, so they are the ideal 'mark'.<br /><br />It is sad that it happens though. Much of the phenomenon I believe is caused by the fact that many players coming into EVE deep down don't really believe EVE is a 'harsh universe' they don't take that claim at face value because many MMO's claim that, and it isn't really true in any of those.Kaeda Maxwellhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13954843678698092456noreply@blogger.com